This is the million dollar question that I get asked over and over and over and over and over, did I say I get ask this question ALL THE TIME…
Instead of giving you a cookie cutter answer lets break this shit down to a science.
First thing we need to understand is that our goal is to be efficient, in other words we want to achieve a high probability of success with minimal effort.
Second thing we need to understand are the scenarios when women make these little groups which I call circle castles:
1.- Bachelorette party.- Some girl is about to get married and goes out with a bunch of girls to celebrate and have a good time. They are typically dress the same, usually a little black dress with a bunch of balloon dildos, condoms, dick lollipops etc… The bachelorette usually has the wedding head piece on. This group can be super friendly or super cock blocking. I personally find them a bit of a waste of time, but there are always 1 or 2 females in the group that are dtf. The thing is that they move around too much from club to club and they have too much of a group mentality. Again, in my opinion they are not efficient in USA.
2.- Birthday party.- Birthday parties are very similar to bachelorette parties, but a lot of the times the birthday girls are down to fuck and though they have a group mentality, the members of the group are more individualistic than the bachelorette party dance circles.
3.- Co- workers.- A bunch of girls that work together. Some of them want to show off and be cool and show the coworkers they “got it” and that they are wanted by guys. Downside, some of them do not want to be JUDGE, and be the subject of gossip at work. They are efficient as long as you are low key and cool while protecting her social proof (do your escalations and touching low key).
4.- Female friends.- They are all types of groups form down to fuck groups, attention whoring groups, fun groups etc…
5.- Family members involved.- These groups most of the time suck, due to a sister, cousin or family member is in the group.
Now usually the groups are formed either at the beginning of the night, when the women just get to the club or when women are warmed up and they play a really girly or cool song ( For example when they play “put a ring on it” by Beance you see all the girl jumping in the middle of the dancefloor).
Groups are strategically VERY UN EFFICIENT, in other words they are really hard to open and the possibility of success is low. No, is not a limiting belief, no, I do not lack game or whatever that means, and of course fuck off, if you think so….
I just don’t write a bunch of crap I back it up with the why….
So to back it up lets talk about time of the night, as I explained in my post on “club dynamics” , the night has a rhythm. Usually at the beginning of the night women will order couple of drinks to loosen up, then they will form a little circle to bond with each other, even if they know each other. At this point they are forming a circle giving the back, so logistically this is complicated to open them since you will be approaching to a woman giving the back to you, or to approach from the front you would have to break through couple of girls that are giving the back to get to the target making the logistic very awkward.
They are all in their own little world and head. “Am I dress nice” “do I look cute in this outfit” “my heals hurt” “I am cramping with my period” etc…
Now if they are already warmed up and the club is getting packed, there will usually be more dudes than women, so they will form the circle to keep DUDES OUT!. The reason why dudes always ask me all the time how to open circles is cause they can feel it is harder to open, and women know this too that is why the form this castle in some cases in the first place. This weekend I was in a club there were about 8 guys per girl and in the dance floor was like 10 guys per girl, there was a circle like that and I did not see one guy try to open.
Now that we more or less understand a bit of the dynamics and the problem with women circles, lets find the different ways to open them and hook them that offer the greatest probability of success:
1- Proximity.- You will place yourself strategically close to the group and/or the group will usually place themselves close to you, if they want to be open. What you will do is dance (in dance floor game) or be life of the party and charismatic (If not dance floor game), the group will feel your positive, vibe and energy and they will want to be part of it. I usually get open by groups or women members of the group towards the beginning of the night (does not mean shit, they are most of the time want to attention whore or to get warm up themselves).
2.- Massive attack.- This one is when 3 or more players will open the group at the same time and they all will dance with all or the majority members of the group. Here is the problem, how many cool and confident guys do you know? exactly that is what i thought. Second, problem is what if the girl you wanted is taken by one of your boys and you are stuck with the ugly duck. Third problem, what if the cock block gets mad cause there 3 on 4 and she is left out. Finally, what if your girl likes you, but the other girls don’t like your friends. With that being said this is one of the best techniques to open a group.
3.- Distraction.- In this technique you will wait for a break and/or distraction and you will open. In other words after couple of songs women had enough of the group bonding and the ADD will kick in. A distraction could be a dude opening, or another girl arriving, or a girl going to the bathroom, or a girl going for drinks etc… This is my favorite way to open groups and what has worked for me. The downside is kind of a passive approach, but i am not just sitting there waiting like a loser, I am still doing my thing (pimping) but in the back of my mind and eye waiting for the break or distraction.
4.- Verbal Opening.- This is my least favorite way and I do not do much verbals due to the loud music, if the girls are dancing it barely works. You say things such as: “what are you guys celebrating” “you girls know how to party” “the party is over here”. However, I am discussing in the context of dance floor game, therefore just open to buy time to read body language, if the body language is positive, then start dancing, if they give you fuck off body language, eject.
5.- Vip invitation.- Basically you invite the girls to come with you and your boys to the vip, but now you are going into sugar daddy territory. This is not part of me and my method since my game is not expending money on women, but I have seen dudes pull it off.
In summary, opening groups of 3 or more in the dance floor while in a circle is usually un effective, but the techniques I just laid out, specially the one I use the most which is to go in with break or distractions, will give you the best chance of success. Out!
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